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April 2012 S&T news

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Call for April 2012 exhibition

Pick out the best photo of April from your own album and send the link in a PM to shoottell.

For the exhibition we would like to have the links by the end of April 30th at the latest. It will take a few days to put this together, so the exhibition will open the door around the 3rd of May 2012.

We hope you all will join in and send your best of the month that you would like to show a bit extra. If you find it difficult to decide what is your best picture of the month, then let moderators to decide! We hope to see photos from all of us!

Editing instructions update

On updated editing instructions we approve perspective control on post processing stage. To really understand what this editing technique means, we recommend trying a manual approach first. Use a wide angle lens and shoot directly towards some tall building, and take the picture far enough to get the whole building into the picture. Do not point camera upwards but aim the center of image into spot that is on same level with the camera. Then crop away the foreground. Now you have picture of a house that does not narrow upwards because of perspective.

To make it possible to get better pictures, you can now on also fine tune the perspective afterwards on software. This means you are allowed to straighten the perspective. But we ask not to exaggerate or not to use this tool to create falls or inverted perspective. And of course no morphing allowed either. So, if you find some picture unsatisfying because of perspective narrowing, you can now straighten the lines on software. We recommend enabling the grid on software to make the job easier. Moreover, do not forget to adjust the height/width as well to avoid objects looking stretched.


Now we also allow “multiple exposures”. This means you can merge two pictures that are the same size placed exactly on top of each other. This is an old trick possible on film cameras. Today also some modern digital cameras makes this possible. And now here at S&T we allow to merge the pictures also on photo editor.


However, we do not accept stitching pictures side by side like done to get panorama images. Only single shot panorama images done by cropping is okay. See editing instructions for more details.

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Comments

Thu Winwikipedian Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:24:22 AM

How about panorama done with the camera directly?

Sami Serolaserola Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:57:21 AM

Originally posted by wikipedian:

How about panorama done with the camera directly?


If it requires taking multiple pictures that camera software then stitches, then it is NOT allowed. At least not yet. This is now taken under consideration by moderators.

On editing instructions we try to limit all editing instructions into tricks that has been possible during film era. It is a complicated issue. For example on very old film cameras it was possible to move the film not only one frame at the time but only as much as one like. Therefore it was possible to take exposures where one could get two frames overlapped.

But as said these stitched panorama images are not allowed on our current editing instructions.

Thu Winwikipedian Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:28:38 AM

Some cameras have sweep panorama where the panorama taking is handled automatically by the software. One such phone is the Galaxy Nexus or the Sony android phones.

Many Sony cameras also do sweep panorama.

Sami Serolaserola Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:57:16 AM

I would say the sweep panorama is okay up

Thomas Oneclicksamoht1 Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:58:21 AM

I don't think sweep panorama is okay! It is a form of stiching with we do not allow!

Sami Serolaserola Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:51:55 PM

OK, cllearly we moderators have to discuss this sweeping panorama issue through first before we accept it. So, currently no panorama pictures other than taken with wide angle lens and then cropped vertically.

Sami Serolaserola Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:58:30 PM

According first page you linked Thu, the Sony sweep feature does this:

The ultra-fast EXMOR CMOS sensor inside the HX1 shoots a rapid burst of frames at a speed that many sophisticated SLR cameras can’t match. Frames are then stitched together automatically by the camera: the whole process takes just three seconds.


Therefore it is pretty much the same as taking multiple pictures and stitching them. It only takes many more narrow frames and stitch them. Therefore it seems to be a feature that after all does not go along with the current rules we have here.

So, unfortunately it looks like we have to forbidden it. But as said, we moderators have to discuss this trough one more time and then make a final decision. The results you have to wait till July when we will recheck the editing instructions for next time.

Thu Winwikipedian Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:25:47 PM

If you rule against panorama, it would be a loss as many great scenes can be taken with panorama. Therefore, you could just not allow panorama done with desktop software but not panorama done with the camera in the same way affects like black and white and solarize and spertia are allowed.

Sami Serolaserola Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:47:24 PM

If you want to take panorama images, then buy a camera/lens that takes extra wide angle pictures. Then crop the pictures vertically. However, panorama is nothing more or less than a aspect ratio. You can even use telephoto lens to take panorama. Just crop the picture like this:
http://files.myopera.com/serola/albums/2717461/20110211hand.jpg -
Panorama is not actually a technique, it is more like way to compose. You choose a view (a landscape or something else) that is suitable to aspect ratio like 3:1 or even more.

One reason why moderators here at S&T have forbidden any technique using stitched pictures or frames is that grazy guys like me wanted to use it for something like this:
http://files.myopera.com/serola/albums/2717461/20110808b.JPG -

Thu Winwikipedian Saturday, April 21, 2012 4:30:47 PM

Well you could say picture must be of the same shot and not of totally different scenery stitched together.

Michal Havelkabrunozbruna Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:46:15 PM

Originally posted by serola:

“multiple exposures”



This is nice idea!

My attempt!

http://my.opera.com/brunozbruna/blog/2011/05/12/three-generations

bigsmile

Elina Zaproudielzaserr Monday, April 23, 2012 6:52:08 PM

Welcome Duyen, once again!!! yes party party party

And... so wonderful news!!! happy happy cheers

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