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Theres a wave in the Opera community to get feedback from people on the 5 things they'd like to see in Opera. This is a pretty broad scoped question, so I'll try to use some of my five to hit on several of the possible paths.

First, I was tagged by non-troppo- and that list was *pretty darn good* as it is. I'll add a few thoughts and links that I've collected throughout the years.


My number one issue is hand in hand with non-troppo's second issue.
  1. I think getting a metadata focus on the mail, bookmarks, notes, etc would be a great step. I want to treat my address bar like a command line- I already get bookmarks/nicknames, query tons of search engines, opera:config, opera:history, not to mention the occasional URL input. There are tons of "quick search" boxes around the UI- it would be nice to get those integrated.

  2. "User Constructed Browsing" focus
    Tighter integration of notes to the URL- something very similar to the "post-it" projects that have come along. Ideally- when you went to a URL, the notes panel would "focus" a note connected to that URL

    Most things we bookmark we dont' really want to bookmark. I think most of the sites I want to bookmark are represented with my "top 10" and my speed dial. Everything else is just for reference.

  3. Discoverability of advanced features- I like how Opera hides features and lets you uncover them- like mouse gestures, and how the mail accounts are hidden from the UI until you set up accounts. Opera should put some thought into how users discover features. Tie it in with the Opera Community to give it some "social" impact- Something like a "power user" score that users can earn that is reflected in the community. Maybe a "myers-briggs" type of score that shows what kind of Opera user the person is. Opera can set up tests in the community for users to learn features, or have it based on what number of features (like mouse gestures) are active/used in the browser. The user would have to opt in of course.


  4. "I prefer ergonomics over being a populist platform." (non-troppo) Do not conform to "browser standards" (meaning browser client, not web standards- *do* conform to those please!) unless it makes sense to do so. You're an innovative company- I use your product because it's different than the others. Truth be told, I don't care about Javascript or rendering speed, I like your interface better than others. Its not for everyone, and maybe Opera won't be for me in the future, but I want you to keep innovating.

    sub note: Personally, I don't care how much marketshare you have (I know *you* do :smile:) The only thing that matters is that you continue to make a good product. I'll pay for Opera (I did in the past) and I'd pay for Opera Mobile if it was available for my phone. I've paid for the Opera browser on Nintendo DS and I'll pay for it on a Wii if I ever get my hands on one.

  5. Tighter my.opera.com integration with the browser- you have a great community, it would be nice to easily blog and post from within the browser. Portable browser bookmarks, sessions and settings across my many installs and Opera Mini, and Nintendo DS.


Bonus Time!- Ten Small Improvements for the Opera UI (Number 4 on that list is now available! That document is a year old now and needs to be revisited) I particularly would like someone to do number 10 on that list- Allow us to save a wand/password *after* we've logged in to a site (handle it like the pop-up blocked dialog)

I'd like to hear from Dan/dantesoft, WillYum, Ken/kmaage(who's view will not necessarily reflect those of his employer), Schneemann, FataL, and Dave (there's an extra one there in case one of you are already tagged)

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philry4n 21. July 2007, 17:06

wow i really like #3 :yes:

moo 22. July 2007, 02:34

Oooh I also like #10 of your "small UI improvements"... It's the sort of thing everyone wants, but no one turns into a "wish"...

Of course, it's not that easy to engineer, either. It would have to be something like the unopened popups where it lets you know it *could* save the password, and then lets you tell it later. Which actually would be a whole lot more pleasantly unintrusive than the currently common password-save dialogs! I could appreciate that a lot...

Eddie_Lopez 22. July 2007, 03:08

Yeah- I figure it could remember the page you're on then when you click submit then it asks you if you want to save the password.

From a usability standpoint- I know I want to save the login credentials, I'm just not exactly sure what credentials I'm supposed to use. I end up either littering my wand with multiple credentials, or I select "not now" and after I log in, proceed with my business and forget about it and face the same problem again next time.

I really do think that #10 would be a really nice feature. And yes, I envision it like popup blocker.... if anything if the current dialog (save/not now/never dialog) would stay up *after* I log in, then I could use it like the rest of the world does now, but still give me the chance to throw it away if the password I used wasn't the right one.

Eddie_Lopez 22. July 2007, 03:14

I could have sworn I wish-listed this (Wand saving post login) at some point- under eddie_lopez or elcid73 (my other/older profile)- but I can't find it. Maybe I'll add it to the list (again)

Schneemann 22. July 2007, 03:38

I want to treat my address bar like a command line- I already get bookmarks/nicknames, query tons of search engines, opera:config, opera:history, not to mention the occasional URL input. There are tons of "quick search" boxes around the UI- it would be nice to get those integrated.


That is exactly the point of Search Engines Sharing Thread - putting all that freaky javascript in searches. Basically, a bookmarklet taking parameters.

Schneemann 22. July 2007, 03:45

Tighter integration of notes to the URL- something very similar to the "post-it" projects that have come along. Ideally- when you went to a URL, the notes panel would "focus" a note connected to that URL


Yes.. While I'm browsing, Opera can have a look in my notes and other panels, and find everything that could be related.
Or even look up in dictionaries?
Instant, modeless and context-based Information Assistance Panel

Schneemann 22. July 2007, 03:56

Discoverability of advanced features


I once had a thread about this, but my ideas were maybe not that useful - at least I do no longer support all of which I wrote. I think a lot can be improved in discoverability, but that needs to happen step by step.
Maybe one useful thing would be more inline help in the customization and preferences dialogs. Not tooltips, but some kind of mouseover information appearing in a dedicated part of the dialog. But please, not the typical redundant information ("[x] hue optimization. -> Click here to make your picture more hue-optimized!")

Schneemann 22. July 2007, 04:10

Ten Small Improvements for the Opera UI


Eat this one :smile:
Top Ten Quick Wishes (scroll down for my own stuff)
Or, what about Suffix Search ? (same comment here already)
Or more mouse combos - like flipback/flipforward, but involving the other buttons.

What is bugging me most is responsiveness breakdown when too many (30+/-) tabs are open, or when just something miraculous is happening in the background. But that's not a "small improvement" I guess.
The rest I can live with.

Schneemann 22. July 2007, 12:14

Maybe it would help a lot if the wishlist was better organized!
One good thing would be late tagging: Select a piece of text, and set is as a tag for the thread you read.
New feature *Quick Tags* and list of related threads.

danigoldman 22. July 2007, 14:50

Eddie, I really like your Wand suggestion from your 'bonus'. That would be a great solution to a problem I encounter often.

Eddie_Lopez 23. July 2007, 03:29

Schneeman-

I think I replied in each/most of those links you threw out there- good stuff!

Dan- Thanks.. I really do think that would be a good idea... the more I think about it, the more I want to flesh it out and present a new post on it, although there's really not that much more to it.

hmmmm maybe I will anyway.

Schneemann 1. August 2007, 16:46

yeah thanks :smile:
you left out the information-assistance panel. well, maybe too adventurous idea. I'm not sure myself if it would be realistic.

and +1 for this wand notification - worth a try at least!
Another solution, if they want to keep the dialog: Make it more obvious which of the buttons is preselected:


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username: Schneemann
password: ********
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damn I put a size=5 bbcode tag on the "Skip" button, but it doesn't work in comments :frown:

Schneemann 1. August 2007, 23:06

haha, finally I got the trick of this game - my own blog post! yes maybe I should do this. I just don't know where to put my tag! I guess all the "usual suspects" have already been hit. We'll see.

_Grey_ 2. August 2007, 01:14

@Schneemann: What?

Schneemann 2. August 2007, 01:16

ehm, which of the above points was too much :confused:

_Grey_ 2. August 2007, 14:19

Operator overloading on "tag" :wink:

Nevermind, now I understand what you wanted to say. But why the "finally got the trick of this game"?

Schneemann 2. August 2007, 14:38

It means: Now I noticed how this tag game was started by danigoldman, and how others responded to it with blog articles.
I didn't really get that system before, too slow my brain ;p Only noticed that eddie wants me to write something here.

Anyway, I am not sure what this game should bring. I mean, the Opera guys should long have built an alarm in the wishlist forum, programmed to call a dev every time I make a post :wink:

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