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Less is less?: iTunes podcast management

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This article was rewritten/updated.

Please see: iTunes as a Podcast Manager: it's time for an intervention for revised version



iTunes+iPod has always been great for me as far as music is concerned. Playlist management and the iPod interface have not always had EVERY feature I wanted or needed, but simplicity is the selling point and well frankly, it sold me. "Less is more." By limiting the feature set to create a simple UI, you've created "more" in terms of the user experience. I agree.

But lately, my iPod is almost exclusively (emphasis on almost) used for podcasts, and I’ve found iTunes to not match exactly the|my real world usage of podcasts (activity centered anyone?)

Here are a couple UI quirks I've found that make me think "less" is actually less when dealing with podcasts-


Repeat

This is a useful feature on playlists of music, but has little value to podcasts. I always want
my music to loop back through the playlist, but I never want my podcasts to loop. iPod can only let you set one. If I'm listening to music- I prefer to select repeat. Podcast? Turn it off. I’ve found (maybe it’s just the podcasts I listen to) that sometimes it’s not so easy to tell you’ve looped back to the beginning, and conversly, when your music playlist ends when you're hitting 9MPH on the treadmill- that's also a let down.


Limited choice of syncing

The options available are perfect for one podcast, but not another. Variations in publishing/syndication lead to variation in how why should sync them. The "one size fits all" approach to updating your podcasts keeps the interface simple, but at the cost of being useful...

  • Unplayed podcast This is a podcast specific feature (as far as I know)- but some podcasts I get (like the onion news) are only a minute at best, and some are an hour. If I’m only 20 minutes into one and I want to keep it around, I have to disable automatically sync, because otherwise as soon as I dock it, the unfinished episode has to be marked as unplayed and re-sync'd (and then, I have to FF/find where I was again)

  • Most recent episode- some podcasts are published every once in awhile (PK&J show) and some are published multiple times a day (Armstrong and Getty is a radio show that publishes each hour of a four hour show, every day). Most recent episode is good for infrequent podcasts, but daily (or multiple per day) podcasts require dedicated daily syncs and the potential to miss some.

  • Only Checked- labor intensive. Seems like this is my only choice for the large variety of podcasts I listen too. But each podcast doesn't need to "managed" on a daily basis. I'd like to set it once for each podcast. The PK&J show? Get the most recent. Armstrong and Getty? Get all of em...etc.


Auto update

It only updates when you dock it. I dock it when I get home from work and pick it up in the morning on my way out the door….after every podcast I know of has sent out updates. So I have to manually sync it before grab it. I realize iTunes doesn’t know when you’re going to grab it. But how about if it updates the iPod whenever it searches for & updates new podcasts?


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How about allowing us to set preferences for each podcast? Too complex? Would that clutter the UI too much? Less is more, simplicity is key? How about “activity centered design is the key to simplicity” instead? Build your UI to enhance my activities. In my opinion, podcasts management (as well as the searching via iTunes, but that is a different post entirely) is an afterthought.

Perhaps simplicity is still the key here. Maybe iTunes tried to cram podcast functionality into a music manager. In 37Signals mantra- maybe two simple interfaces are needed that are designed for the intended activity. Are podcasts different from music? Should the UI treat them differently?

You may immediately tell me to “use product 'X' instead of iTunes- and that’s fine. But I really do appreciate the integrated music store, syncing and management of iTunes and my iPod. But if you have a better solution that allows me to sit at my desk, dock my iPod and get my music and podcasts sync’d, I’d listen.

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Comments

Anonymous 31. July 2006, 01:01

micsaund writes:

I dislike the same limitations you mentioned! Actually, I found this posting by searching for "ipod podcast manager" :^) I generally leave mine on auto-sync for "unheard" but that means I can only dock it when I'm between podcasts or the partial ones get deleted also.

Another thing I really don't like is the fact that you cannot tell if you've heard a podcast already on the iPod's UI.

I'm hoping to find a utility that will let me manage things like this better, but who knows if I'll succeed...

Mike
www.micsaund.com

Eddie_Lopez 31. July 2006, 02:21

micsaund-

Are you using a Mini? I just got a Nano and it has the "unplayed" blue dot inication to show when a podcast is unplayed.

I have a dock that syncs unheard, but I also have a seperate AC adapter for just charging it between podcasts to avoid what you're talking about.

Thanks for stopping by

Anonymous 25. September 2006, 04:53

Richard S. writes:

It's funny, only since upgrading to iTunes 7 has this problem of erasing partially listened to podcasts from my 2 GB nano started to occur. And like the article author, I almost exclusively use the nano for listening to podcasts like "Bandana Blues." Shows can be from 30 minutes to 1:20. Now I must figure out some way to keep iTunes from erasing to partially listened to podcasts!

BTW, I reached this page by Googling for: partial listen podcast itunes

Anonymous 27. September 2006, 12:56

Duane Fields writes:

I agree with many of the concerns. The feature I'd like to see supported would be individual sync preferences for each podcast, or the introduction of a smart playlist filter with options like "latest X from each".

The scenario I'd like to support is creating a drive-time playlist that has the latest episode of 3-5 podcasts that I can play one after the other (NPR News, NPR Story of the Day, The Onion shorts, etc) and then other podcasts that I keep around for longer listens as needed.

AFAIK there's no way to create such a playlist now, basically a "no more than one per artist" type of scenario.

Anonymous 28. October 2006, 18:47

Matt Z writes:

I was looking for a solution to the podcast sync issue too. Just like the author and a couple of you folks, I have a few types of podcasts. 43folders podcast is 2-15 minutes typically as compared to This week in Tech or This American Life (NPR) which tend to be about an hour. I'd like to get like 20 short ones and 5 long ones. If I had the general options iTunes provides assigned differently to each podcast I'd be all set. Maybe there's a hack out there somewhere.

Just came across this before I finished posting: http://beam.to/woodenbrain
Looks like a decent solution in the time being.

Anonymous 7. February 2007, 01:56

Don writes:

The problem with the dot is that it goes away once you start listening, not when you are done. However, there doesn't appear to be a way to include 'played' dot in the conditions (IOW, the flag you toggle when you right click on a podcast and say 'Mark as Played' or 'Mark as Unplayed').

If they would include that, then I could simply create a playlist to have 'last played' 'is before' '1/1/2000' along with one that indicates if the 'played' flag is set (indicating that I started listening to it). This would result in a playlist of all the started-but-not-complete podcasts.

Please Apple?

Anonymous 29. May 2007, 14:46

Pat Niemeyer writes:

What I'd like to see instead of a dot is a bar / line showing what parts of the podcast had been listened to... This could be part of an expanded view that (dare I dream it) actually showed you the entire title on multiple lines... There is nothing more frustrating than not being able to see the podcast titles because they don't scroll when one is playing. Why is that anyway? Doesn't it have enough horsepower to scroll text while playing an mp3?

Anonymous 14. April 2009, 03:40

Anonymous writes:

I have a problem where I WANT my unplayed podcasts to be overwritten with newer ones. Some of these podcasts update multiple times a day... I know I'll never have time to listen to them all, but when I do want to listen to them, I want the newest ones. Instead, my iPod won't delete the old/dated unplayed podcasts until I listen to at least part of them - what a hassle...

Eddie_Lopez 14. April 2009, 13:11

Agreed. Of course, the point is that podcasts are consumed in many different ways. iTunes has gotten better at how they let you subscribe, but there's still some gaps.

(also, there's a been a couple updates to this post since 2006)

Anonymous 19. September 2009, 14:06

Paulie writes:

Well thought out and written. thanks.
I am amazed at the short sightedness of apple with respect to the new podcast management. Simply put, I want to have all (including latest) episodes of SOME podcasts and I want to have just the latest few episodes of other podcasts. I've always been able to do this until iTunes 9.0. Talk about one large step backwards. It seems as Apple is moving toward a very narrow minded approach to features and use of their products. I use the iPhone and will seriously consider moving to another brand next time around.

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