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Wednesday, 25. January 2006, 19:26:22

Zotlan

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Opera 9 TP2 coming not soon at all? Read all about it!

http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2006/01/technical-preview-2-for-opera-9-coming.html
sounds like good news, though his update isn't very promissing.

Monday, 9. January 2006, 23:49:54

olli

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WIR sounds correct to me :rolleyes:

Monday, 9. January 2006, 23:51:05

Too bad. RSN sounds so much better... :frown:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 04:17:18

skydart

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I'm tired. I love Opera, and check to see if a new version pt2 has been released AT LEAST TWICE A DAY! . . . . . . to my sad disappointment. :frown:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 08:41:14

NoobSaibot

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yeah, give us a new toy :ninja:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 09:42:38

"This is the calm before a storm of activity surrounding the launch of Opera 9"


Smells good :smile:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 11:02:10

mark_poleon

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Originally posted by nachtklavier:

Disappointment*=2;


I think this possibly is because of Opera CES2006

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 12:34:23

yngvewb

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Originally posted by skydart:

I'm tired. I love Opera, and check to see if a new version pt2 has been released AT LEAST TWICE A DAY! . . . . . . to my sad disappointment. :frown:


Just like me! I have to go back to Opera 8.5 soon if no new beta is coming, it's just to many bugs in 9b1, I can't handle it anymore.:cry:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 12:44:04

xErath

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Then you're out of luck yngvewb. There'll be a technology preview but not a beta.

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 13:11:54

skydart

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Originally posted by mark_poleon:

Originally posted by nachtklavier:

Disappointment*=2;


I think this possibly is because of Opera CES2006



When is CES2006? . . . . and exactly what is it? I'm guessing it is when they show their latest products off, no?

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 13:17:40

Saddle Magic

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CES2006 = The largest Consumer Electronics Show of the year.

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 13:40:05

Which already took place...

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 14:09:44

sebt

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Please fix bugs, 100% CPU coming out of standby and hibernate is my biggest issue. Then some M2 improvements. Here's hoping!!!

Seb :smile:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 15:12:08

illiad

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hey!! I know the answer to your question!!!!
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Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 15:55:53

Jakub81

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Breaking news: Opera will be released WIR... :rolleyes:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 16:27:01

Originally posted by TheMajor:

When Will it be Ready???



"Soon" :lol:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 19:40:00

yngvewb

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Originally posted by xErath:

Then you're out of luck yngvewb. There'll be a technology preview but not a beta.


Well xErath, some call it beta, Opera call it preview, what’s the difference? I can’t see any difference.

And I have to confess a lie. I have never used Opera 8.5. In the last months, or maybe it’s a year, I’ve been using Opera previews most of the time…

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 19:56:37

Nafcom

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Originally posted by yngvewb:

Originally posted by xErath:

Then you're out of luck yngvewb. There'll be a technology preview but not a beta.


Well xErath, some call it beta, Opera call it preview, what’s the difference? I can’t see any difference.

And I have to confess a lie. I have never used Opera 8.5. In the last months, or maybe it’s a year, I’ve been using Opera previews most of the time…



As I understood it, preview is only what can be technically done, but it does not mean that this will find its way into a final or even beta

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 19:59:22

Tracio

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Originally posted by yngvewb:

some call it beta, Opera call it preview, what’s the difference? I can’t see any difference.




http://snapshot.opera.com/


Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 20:16:47

Nafcom

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Originally posted by Tracio:

Originally posted by yngvewb:

some call it beta, Opera call it preview, what’s the difference? I can’t see any difference.




http://snapshot.opera.com/



Thanks! :smile:

Tuesday, 10. January 2006, 21:20:24

mark_poleon

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Originally posted by skydart:

When is CES2006? . . . . and exactly what is it? I'm guessing it is when they show their latest products off, no?


Opera for Devices wants to meet you at CES 2006!

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 05:25:33

fantastxue

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I'm waiting and waiting,
but nothing happens.

:irked:

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 10:57:40

Nafcom

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add me to the list of impatient waiters! :D

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 11:39:33

yngvewb

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Originally posted by Nafcom:

As I understood it, preview is only what can be technically done, but it does not mean that this will find its way into a final or even beta


Originally posted by Tracio:

http://snapshot.opera.com/


Thanks!

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 18:23:18

mufaa

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I hope they release it soon enough. I am using 'other' browser because some of the features dont work with Opera. And the experience suck. Hope the WIR is soon.

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 19:49:27

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Originally posted by mufaa:

I hope they release it soon enough. I am using 'other' browser because some of the features dont work with Opera. And the experience suck. Hope the WIR is soon.



Are you moaning about a Preview release?

cg

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 21:28:11

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Originally posted by sebt:

Please fix bugs, 100% CPU coming out of standby and hibernate is my biggest issue.

Seb :smile:



Same here! :down:

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 23:28:36

hcastill

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I gave up on asking as to when a realese will be out long time ago.

The answer is always WIR. It does not matter how pretty you ask.

It won't happen.

Just be patient........

Wednesday, 11. January 2006, 23:34:42

skydart

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I've had to switch back to Opera 8.51. This Preview is the buggiest version of Opera I have ever used, and I've used all Previews and Beta's since Opera 7. The gmail thing is just killing me. I can't use Preview 1 because it crashes insesantly when replying to e-mail using gmail. It almost made me just go back to Firefox. SOOOOOOO disappointing!, (plus, of course, the HTML screen layout while composing e-mail in gmail).

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 00:40:05

Nafcom

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Originally posted by skydart:

I've had to switch back to Opera 8.51. This Preview is the buggiest version of Opera I have ever used, and I've used all Previews and Beta's since Opera 7. The gmail thing is just killing me. I can't use Preview 1 because it crashes insesantly when replying to e-mail using gmail. It almost made me just go back to Firefox. SOOOOOOO disappointing!, (plus, of course, the HTML screen layout while composing e-mail in gmail).



Therre is some truth in there, never had so much problems with an Opera preview like with this one.

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 01:29:45

Same here. Still using 7.54u2.

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 02:38:27

sgunhouse

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In Linux, I had to switch back. In Windows, it is workable.

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 03:32:55

ThunderFire

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Originally posted by olli:

WIR sounds correct to me :rolleyes:


I second that.

Opera TP1 had a lot of bugs to the point were it was unworkable.
I've installed it only to remove it 10 mins later, it had never happened with
any previous version.

My guess, without any inside, is that there was a lot of adding/rewriting of
the code and things broke down (things they used to work).

No reason to emulate the practices M$ is using, releasing before it's ready
even as a TP. Just fix the bugs, bring it into a par with 8.51 then release
it for testing.

No one is hunting Opera, it's to fast to catch anyway :smile:

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 06:32:06

DonAnkur

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Fill it feature a improved UI also?

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 07:53:51

nachtklavier

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Mmh, nice bug - my avatar is everywhere. You are being assimilated :wink:

StillWaitingForTP2++;

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 07:55:22

nachtklavier

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Fine, where is the "attached" screenshot in my previous message?

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 09:22:06

Jetro

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Originally posted by skydart:

I've had to switch back to Opera 8.51. This Preview is the buggiest version of Opera I have ever used, and I've used all Previews and Beta's since Opera 7. The gmail thing is just killing me. I can't use Preview 1 because it crashes insesantly when replying to e-mail using gmail. It almost made me just go back to Firefox. SOOOOOOO disappointing!, (plus, of course, the HTML screen layout while composing e-mail in gmail).



Jeez, what part of this don't you understand?

Pre·view:
- of an experimental nature
- distributed to a limited audience, i.e. forums, newsgroups, and IRC
- should never be installed over a final release
- not to be used as a substitute for a final release

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 10:06:19 (edited)

scipio

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Aren't previews/betas/finals normally released on Tuesdays? :happy:

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 09:41:15

talornin

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Hm... Ive used Opera 9tp1 ever since it was released. Not one single problem. Ive had far more problems and bugs with some stable versions than with this one.

Guess im just lucky ^_^

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 09:43:24

illiad

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well I dont know what *%&^%$^%$ you've got on your machines, unpatched win98 is working ok, even on gmail...
and no I *never* install 'over the top' - recipe for disaster...

and linux - no probs, installs better and easier than any other software I have tried!! is it just me thats lucky, or just not using strange configurations???

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 11:54:01

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Repeatedly installed over the top, old OS (NT4), old PC, setup and mail originally copied from a backup of Opera 7 or something on a different PC (just hand-changed all the paths in the INIs)...

Never any problems with 9p1 at all(*). In fact, I think it's the most stable version on this system since I first installed here eighteen months ago! :D

(*) Only a couple of times feeds needed re-indexing, but this is nothing compared to O8.


I have always over-installed, since a) I've never had problems, and b) as a beta-tester I actually feel that *someone* should do it (and also c) unless it really deletes my mail or something I'm okay with fixing things myself)! But I'm not stupid - I've made backups when the changelog looked sufficiently ... interesting (like for this preview).

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 11:59:54

Nafcom

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Originally posted by MossMan:

Repeatedly installed over the top, old OS (NT4), old PC, setup and mail originally copied from a backup of Opera 7 or something on a different PC (just hand-changed all the paths in the INIs)...

Never any problems with 9p1 at all(*). In fact, I think it's the most stable version on this system since I first installed here eighteen months ago! :D

(*) Only a couple of times feeds needed re-indexing, but this is nothing compared to O8.


I have always over-installed, since a) I've never had problems, and b) as a beta-tester I actually feel that *someone* should do it (and also c) unless it really deletes my mail or something I'm okay with fixing things myself)! But I'm not stupid - I've made backups when the changelog looked sufficiently ... interesting (like for this preview).



Which is what I did, too! :D

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 12:13:38

Saddle Magic

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It's not a good idea to install a "beta" over top of any release or even more important, a final release over a "beta". Problems crop up that are not easily explained, this is because no test release from Opera is complete. There are always holes in it, various bugs and incomplete routines as well as not being thoroughly tested for incompatibilities when upgraded.

There was a rash of users with odd problems after 8.02 came out, they had upgraded their "beta" versions of 7.xx and even though 8.00 gave them no apparent problems, the problems did catch up with them.

I thought most new releases came out on Fridays or the day before a holiday. That way the Devs could take a couple days off to party.

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 12:45:16

illiad

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-- and no two systems, even with same software, hardware, etc, are ever *identical* - there are a lot more variables - surfing habits/style, ISP and line quality in your particular area(including other users/congestion/ISP problems), some CD that put something on the PC (unknown to you), a random power glitch, etc, etc, etc...... I have had a few strange ones!!

It just takes time, it will happen when you *dont* backup for some reason... :insane: :insane: :D:D

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 12:47:20

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Add me to the list of the impatient. It's the "copy/line break" bug that kills Opera 9TP1 for me.

All I ask for is a hotfix......

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 18:07:35

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Originally posted by nachtklavier:

Disappointment*=2;


Disappointment<<=2;

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 19:52:51

All I ask for is a hotfix......


Only one?

Impatientness++;

Thursday, 12. January 2006, 20:17:15

illiad

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have you tried the userjs forum??

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