i forgot my master password,how could i do?

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12. February 2006, 06:01:54

tomsun

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i forgot my master password,how could i do?

can i reset the password?
thanks.

tomsun

12. February 2006, 06:20:14

red58

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if you mean the one under Preferences> Advanced> Security> Set Master Password

probably!!

Bill

12. February 2006, 06:22:08

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Tamil

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Originally posted by tomsun:

can i reset the password?

AFAIK No.

12. February 2006, 06:29:43

tomsun

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what can i do?thanks

12. February 2006, 06:51:26

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Tamil

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Did you save passwords in wand?

12. February 2006, 09:08:09

tomsun

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yes,but i can remember them.

12. February 2006, 13:15:34

tomsun

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i only forgot the master password.who can tell me how to do?

12. February 2006, 15:27:43

HP Deskjet

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I don't see the point of having a master password if someone here is going to advise how you can get around it. Surely, the whole point of the master password is for security. If you've forgotten it I'd advise a re-install.

I'd certainly stop using Opera if security workarounds were to be posted here.
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12. February 2006, 15:43:18

ThePast

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tomsun if you forgot the master password you have two options.

1. Make a fresh install of Opera, rebuild your wand data, and learn from your mistake of selecting a master password that you failed to remember.

2. Learn brute force hacking, and learn from your mistake of selecting a master password that you failed to remember.
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12. February 2006, 15:50:04

Saddle Magic

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At a guess I would think deleting Wand.dat and the associated certificates would get you past the problem.

Of course all your wand data would be lost and you would have to rebuild it from scratch.
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12. February 2006, 16:26:40

red58

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maybe just UNcheck the preference to "Use as master password for e-mail and Wand"?

Bill

12. February 2006, 16:32:20

ThePast

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I certainly hope that doesn't work as it entirely would defeat the purpose of using a master password.
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12. February 2006, 16:39:50

Saddle Magic

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How so? If you stop using the Wand then the Master Password would be moot. Using the browser and using the Wand data are different animals.
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12. February 2006, 16:54:12

yngve

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To remove the master password you have to delete/rename the opcert6.dat file, and if you also had it enabled for wand you have to do the same for the wand.dat file.

I recommend renaming the files, just in case you remember your password again. (In such cases relaxing, not trying so hard to remember may be all that is needed, getting all wound up because you can't remember the password may actually prevent you from remembering, in some cases just letting the fingers type "by themselves" may do the trick.)
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12. February 2006, 16:55:37

ThePast

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What I mean is that if by unchecking the "Use as master password for...." option you could use the wand without using the previously set master password. It would defeat the purpose of having one in the first place.

Presumably I would use a master password to prevent other people with access to my computers from logging in on for example these forums. If simply unchecking the "Use as..." without having to enter the master password means that a master pass no longer have to be used it would be poor security.
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13. February 2006, 09:48:13

tomsun

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Red58,you are right.but everyone could log in some forums using my usernames and passwords.and also someone could save password in wand.

maybe i must reinstall.

14. February 2006, 10:54:39

omegaman

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Originally posted by HP Deskjet:

I don't see the point of having a master password if someone here is going to advise how you can get around it. Surely, the whole point of the master password is for security. If you've forgotten it I'd advise a re-install.

I'd certainly stop using Opera if security workarounds were to be posted here.



We all make mistakes. There are workarounds for almost all scenarios in forgetting Mac system passwords, login keychain issues and more for those of us who are not as brilliant as others. Thank God for workarounds. Shalom!
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15. February 2006, 02:27:24

twl845

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Every time I have to register to something and create a user name and password, I write it down, and then type it on a list I have on file. The list is now a full page long. You'd be surprised how after not accessing something that requires a password for a while, your mind goes blank trying to remember the password. Tip: always create passwords in lower case letters. some passwords are case sensitive, and if you type Password sometimes and password other times, you might as well forget it.p
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23. February 2006, 18:48:08

ThePast

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Originally posted by omegaman:

There are workarounds for almost all scenarios in forgetting Mac system passwords, login keychain issues and more for those of us who are not as brilliant as others.



And then there are scenarios for those that use Macs that make them extremely vulnerable to remote attacks http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=126456 whistle

I couldn't resist. wink
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23. February 2006, 19:09:55

ThePast

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bigeyes

Originally posted by twl845:

Tip: always create passwords in lower case letters. some passwords are case sensitive, and if you type Password sometimes and password other times, you might as well forget it.



I so very much hope you are kidding.

Worst tip ever! You might just as well not use a password at all if you only use lowercase letters, chances are that with a bit of social enginering skills anyone can crack your password in anything from minutes to a day depending on how much they know about you and depending what the password is, not the name of your dog I hope. If using specially crafted software a hacker most certainly got your password within minutes if not just seconds.

A good password is a minimum of 8 characters (I use much longer ones for important stuff) both lower and uppercase and should include both letters and alphanumeric symbols. And it never, I repeat NEVER is a word found in a dictionary in any language, not even when replacing letters with numbers and symbols, p4ssw0rD is just a bad choice as password. A good password look something like this O%/3'3Ki&W.

Originally posted by twl845:

I write it down, and then type it on a list I have on file. The list is now a full page long.



If you are not kidding with that, I recommend that you get a pair of scissors and cut your modem cable. Brilliant. Let me guess the file is called something like passwords.txt, important.txt and is saved in your documents?

A tip: Get a password manager like PasswordSafe, then get a usb memory stick and store the passwords file on that one under a non-describing name like counterstrike.dat and only have the stick plugged in when needed.

Maybe you by "a list I have on file" mean in paper format, while this is better than having it on your hard drive you can still get screwed bigtime, all it takes is a burglar or "friend" that get hold of it and......
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24. February 2006, 03:20:42

twl845

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The Past - Thanks for the info. I took your advice and downloaded PasswordSafe. I only have about a half dozen sites where the password is important. The rest are forum passwords and the like. However I'll do as you suggested and tighten up my passwords. The reason I mentioned that I was using all lower case letters, was because of a password I was using for a product site, and I forgot the password. I kept trying the password I thought it was but it wouldn't fly. To make a long story short, I forgot that I had used a few upper case letters and upon figuring out the combo it worked. So for non important passwords, I began using all lower case to avoid a problem. You guessed it, my list is on paper hidden under my monitor. LOL
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6. March 2007, 13:17:43

YinYanger

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Try the very good SuperGenPass bookmarklet at http://labs.zarate.org/passwd_new/
SuperGenPass generates unique (for each website), complex passwords using one “master” password.
You can easily use it on a public computer without compromising your security.
When you’re ready to log into a website (or create a password for the first time), type your master password in the password field, select SuperGenPass from your bookmarks or favorites, and follow the instructions. It adds just two clicks to your login process, and once you begin using it, it becomes second nature.

I use it just for generate passwords and then store them in Wand, but I could use only the SuperGenPass bookmarklet.

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