Opera concept demo. Take a look!

Opera concept demo. Take a look!

Look at this concept that i found on the net.
http://rendom.net/opera2/
I think that opera team should take this concept in mind. Or at least contact its author (its not me, nor my friend etc.!)

Please explain more. What is this video about? Is it really worth waiting five minutes for? It is a big download.

It is a video showing its author's view on the design of Opera and ideas showing how UI could\should look like.

I'm just seeing a grey rectangle on black background.

Here is a direct link for the Flash video
http://rendom.aokhost.com/opera2.swf

... which is producing a 404 error and redirecting to the hosting provider.

I also see only rectangle (opera 9.5). Second link doesn't work.

I don't like this concept

They seem to be blocking external links, or else they removed the content. Either way, none of us can see it. Find another host.

That's the mirror, I think.

Looks great!

Haha, I love the "looking for job" at the end.

Well, I can see some good ideas and the skin doesn't look bad either.

Not a bad skin.
Pretty music!
However, I don't see many improvements.
Improved status bar? It doesn't look better than the progress bar when set to "popup at bottom page". Besides, the latter uses no space when the page is loaded!
URL components highlighting? Why not?
Preferences in a page: Interesting.
Overall, this is a very pretty demo.

I like the concept. The guy has some good ideas. Okay, the skin doesn't look best (imho), but it's only a concept. I would definitely give this a try if it's for real

I like the concept! Very much (video has a bit boring intro and music is unneccessary though).
The UI layout is pretty compact and makes a lot of sense. There are some really good ideas, like one text input with go&search buttons.

Opera! Hire this guy!

I like how he tries to take advantage of the space next to the top menu. And the mini progress bar inside the tab is kinda neat

I just wish the demo was a bit shorter and more explanatory..



Preference in-a-tab

If you cannot view the SWF file, I found some mirrors of it. Under Videos, click Blip.tv since it is the highest quality.
To view with full quality, download the source AVI from Blip.tv or from Vimeo.com.

ZhunusovRuslan's Videos:
http://www.blip.tv/file/1001403/
http://www.vimeo.com/1188617/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb2sasyKJFs&fmt=18
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2921390/

ZhunusovRuslan's Images:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zhunusovruslan/sets/72157605668292872/
http://www.photobucket.com/ZhunusovRuslan/

ZhunusovRuslan's Email:
http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d?k=01TrTO7wRG9KoftR_y5lVLeg==&c=uf4GILDBUJUfk49YmEtoLLOzEhNq6TvkRyHzTxJSBBo=

ZhunusovRuslan's Website:
http://www.rendom.net/

Here are ZhunusovRuslan's Images:

Nice, that's next-gen!

Wow, really nice concept. But, too much of a Vista-ish look to everything.
And if he made that skin and everything, why didnt he post it here?
The good:
+the Preferences in-a-Tab is really great, and i guess it can be used with the appearance menu too.
+the loading bar in the tabs is very nice
+I also like the mail icon in the right-top corner. Nice touch
The not-so-good:
-too Vista-ish. I guess if this design could be implemented, it would support other skins, so i guess that wouldnt be a minus
- a longer demo, and more explanations, not just a heart-racing soundtrack with few overviews

Still waiting for Ruslan to come over and talk to us about the design and tell us more(but from what i see the concept was made a while ago (pre 9.50 RC, i can still see the left side pop-up what-you-might-call-it and the new tab button is still in the top left side)

I definitely like the skin and the UI... but the music was a bit too grandiose though.

Looks pretty useful, I like most of the changes shown.

Soo nice

Originally posted by Eatcarpet:

I definitely like the skin and the UI... but the music was a bit too grandiose though.

Yes, btw, what's that music?

you should work for opera

Originally posted by SiMcarD:

Yes, btw, what's that music?

Yeah.. what was that song? It's cool..

I really like the concept !
Multi - speed dial, and the M2 skin is kinda sexy ! (the way the loading bar are in the tabs too)

Hmm, maybe one day

For the moment, I'd like to see a more sexier contacts panel (and a synchronization for contacs too).
the question is : with all those m2/notes/contacts stuff, isn't opera a PIM now ?

Great, some new blood couldn't harm...
I believe, alone these few ideas and their presentation deserve a closer look for OPERA ASA!

It seems to be worthwhile to delve more into the details, on the work and on the person himself.
Good luck!

Pro

• freely positionable toolbars (although I wouldn't like the personal bar so small and beside menu bar)
  
• animations (looks nice)
  
• multiple tabs in speeddial
  
• mailbutton somewhat nice idea, but needs maybe rework
  
• prefs in pannel/page
  
• the "save my opera" extended sync button (although syncing should be invisible in the background and not through an extra button)
  

Contra:

• lame intro and somewhat lame music.
  
• animations (can hinder workflow - same as window minimizing anims in win - I allways disable them first ^^)
  
• details not described (how does he switch/toggle pannels?)
  
• address bar looks somewhat full in some cases (lock + certificate + feed and then the mail icon besides it)
  
• don't like the mail viev. two "pannels" (one mail pannel, one with the contacts/threads) is too much
  
• tabs orientation wrong (imo should attach to page, not to address bar
  
• tabs below address bar (that's simply wrong logic and those fx bastards support it!)
  
• no playback/pause/mute-function -> watching video more often then once to comment sucks
  

nice design, cool, but useless effects
no ideas to improve usability

That's what any "web 2.0 designer" can suggest (=

[ePyBuM]nice design, cool, but useless effects
no ideas to improve usability
That's what any "web 2.0 designer" can suggest

But they don't do it, and that makes the difference...
"Vivant sequentes" as we old Latin speakers used to say.

Taking your motto: "no guts, no glory" which is so true...

I guess the actual skin could be implemented quite easily? The tabs are plainly wrong though -- currently they suggest that there are three 'address bars tabs'.

Hmm...nice work, but it looks too complicated. The skin is not good. I only like the panels.
I don't see anything groundbreaking, sry.

@hermen2048 : I do agree, it'd be great to have just this skin

Hum, is it possible to have the personal bar located this way on opera 9.5 ?

The Menu bar (File Edit View...) should be removed. Takes up space. You can add it as a pop up like with custom buttons today.
The Rewind button is missing! You cant lose a productivity tool in favour of cool looks.

I like or find interesting:

• The little progress bars in the tabs. I open lots of tabs in the background as I read or en mass every day. It's a simple little modification over the current system which changes the appearance of the tab based on the loading status.
  
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• The email icon with presumably the number of unread emails waiting.
  
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• The colours highlighting the different parts of the URL in the address bar. It suggests some kind of breadcrumbs system - interesting in its own right.
  
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• The 85% icon in the Digg.com tab. Some kind of loading indicator?
  
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• The Menu Bar and other toolbars behaving in a manner more like toolbars in other Windows programs - the ability to lay two or more toolbars in a row.
  
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• The statusbar having a progress bar / address field. Very visually informative. Also, technical information such as bandwidth utilisation will be a boon for techies looking to tweak things. More information is always good providing it is hidden by default as not to scare the newbies.
  
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• I like the skin, especially the elements of the address bar, the sidebar and the in-tab information. I'd probably modify it heavily, but I like it primarily because of the new possibilities it brings to the skinning engine.
  

I don't like:

• A Go button - it's illogical. You're either using the mouse in which case you can use paste & go or paste and then use the keyboard to modify the URL - then you press Enter rather than reaching for the Go button with the mouse. If you're already using the keyboard, you can simply press F2, Ctrl-V or type the url and press Enter. The Go button is entirely superfluous.
  
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• Animations such as sliding sidebar or smooth scrolling. It slows things down, uses lots of CPU and looks horrible when it stutters due to other processes using the CPU heavily. So long as I can disable animations, this is minor.
  
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• The tabs on the speed dial page for more speed dials. 9 is enough for most, and the speeddial.ini can be edited for others. The reason is...
  
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• The increased Opera Sync scope. Opera do have finite resources which would be taxed if everyone was to sync their entire Opera configuration.
  
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I'm not bothered by the music or presentation in the slightest. It could be better but the general idea was conveyed well enough. I loved the "Looking for a job"!

Okay thank you guys for your feedback.
My name is Ruslan Zhunusov and i'm author of this design.

Originally posted by Ward:

The increased Opera Sync scope. Opera do have finite resources which would be taxed if everyone was to sync their entire Opera configuration.

Personally, I think that the resources would not be that much compared to the mail offering they have. Maybe even a value add? Say you get Opera Link as it is for free, but as part of the yearly $29 support cost, you'd also get the advanced config sync? That would help pay for the load. Or, allow users to specify their own FTP server?

Maybe offer an Opera Link server with 5 CALs (Opera instances) for $30 or so, and increase for corps, large families etc...? Just some revenue ideas to deal with both making money (I'm sure I'll get flamed by some for these suggestions) and paying for the additional load full config sync might create.

A two tier service with a subscription fee for the extra functionality would eliminate any problems of resources. An interesting idea.

I probably wouldn't use it, sadly. Or for £30 dollars a year (£15) I'd probably buy one out of loyalty.

Originally posted by serious:

• tabs orientation wrong (imo should attach to page, not to address bar
  
• tabs below address bar (that's simply wrong logic and those fx bastards support it!)
  

I was going to say the same thing. Because of Opera's true MDI, tabs have to be above the address bar so when they are detached, you still have access to it. It's more logical as well.

Originally posted by Rendom:

Okay thank you guys for your feedback.
My name is Ruslan Zhunusov and i'm author of this design.

He's here!

How come you spend time prototyping Opera but haven't been to the forums in 4 years?

Hope this thread encourage you to expand the idea :]

really like the idea of a progress bar in the tabs (that would be so useful for seeing the progress of background loading tabs)!
Idea of preferences in a tab is neat as well.
I can see he's also hoping for more synchronisation options as well as speed dial categories (which alot of us want).
btw were you suggesting that you could add widgets to speed dial? coz that would be crazy cool!

It seems usefull.Does anyone study this kind of skin till now?

I like the idea of combined both Address field & the search engine together!
This will save some valuble space in the Address bar & everyone will be very happy about having more space for the search engine slot too.

P/S: This actually make the "g + space + search text" method make better sense...

Yes at least if it can be made skin, it can be usefull for us now.In future maybe it will be real this projecto or idea.

New Opera is looking interesting. Will the developer team do these? I think they going to do the best.

Does anyone know that who this song belong to?

Originally posted by Rendom:

Okay thank you guys for your feedback.
My name is Ruslan Zhunusov and i'm author of this design.

Do you have the skin available. Obviously it won't implement some of the features shown in the video, but the basic skin is cool.

Can you upload it?

Looks impressive ...

M2 is very great. I want this M2 in Opera 10.

WANT!

Agree about the tabs thing tho =D

This guy should work for Opera. Kickass!

I really liked the layout of the mail. I also second the little progress bars in the tabs.