Opera 9.5 - Restore the System Integrated right-click menu in the Transfers window

Opera 9.5 - Restore the System Integrated right-click menu in the Transfers window

This feature, available since at least Opera 6.0 and maybe earlier, was removed in Opera 9.5. It was, in my opinion, one the most interesting feature for user productivity in Opera, and now it's gone.

Having the integrated menu from Windows Explorer allowed users to:
- Delete files from the disk
- Compress or un-compress files
- View file properties
- Enqueue files in your favorite media player
- Or have just about ANY interaction with the file that your system supports

To me, and many others I'm sure, this is a major lost in functionnality. The option to Open the folder just adds unnecessary steps (right-click on file, open folder, visually find the file, right-click again, choose action, close explorer) and on some computers, opening Explorer can be slow, adding to the frustration.

Please, that code for the system integration is somewhere in your source repository, even if we have to customize our menu files to get it back, it would be fine with me.

I agree. I can see as to why it might be a security risk for stupid people to accidently run a virus...oh but wait they can still double click on it.
Ok, now I don't see any good reason why it's not there. My guesses are that either someone changed an interface call and made this menu not compatible or they felt that having the operating system affect the look and feel of their program was something that they did not want.

In any case, I do greatly miss the functionality and want it back.

Thanks.

Bring it back, please. It makes handling of downloaded files much faster and easier.

Originally posted by Luchio:

Having the integrated menu from Windows Explorer allowed users to:
- Delete files from the disk
- Compress or un-compress files
- View file properties
- Enqueue files in your favorite media player
- Or have just about ANY interaction with the file that your system supports

+1 //Antivirus

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Absolutely support bringing it back, there can't be a good reason for killing operas best feature. I loved it so much, in fact I recall several times in which I would doze at my keyboard and in my dream, a beautiful young girl would appear. Her hair was brown with the most subtle red hues and she had freckles. Her curls bounced as she confessed her love for me, and I her. We didn't discuss names for I knew she was the right click context menu from Opera's transfer tab. Suddenly, a storm broke out and in a sea of progress and 9.5, she was lost forever. I am still deep in mourning.

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And if Opera wants to keep the downloads menu clean, it can just add a menu item named "System Menu" or something to the right-click menu, and cascade all the system context menu into this menu item

Originally posted by iliiad:

And if Opera wants to keep the downloads menu clean, it can just add a menu item named "System Menu"

Exactly! Like this >

[Transfers Item Popup Menu]
...
Platform Windows, --------------------4
Platform Windows, Submenu, "System Menu", Internal Shell Menu

[Internal Shell Menu]
Include, Internal Shell

I completely agrizzle. Even if it has to be a '2nd level' menu.

I'd like to add my name to this list. Opera's powerful download manager was what made me choose it over Firefox. I haven't switched back yet, but I am considering it when Firefox 3 is released, at least until this functionality is restored.

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Originally posted by iliiad:

Opera wants to keep the downloads menu clean, it can just add a menu item named "System Menu" or something to the right-click menu, and cascade all the system context menu into this menu item

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Originally posted by Luchio:

... on some computers, opening Explorer can be slow, adding to the frustration...

On some computers an alternative file manager is used so having a Windows Explorer window appear with default attributes is really jarring and disrupts the user experience. Even a sub-menu would be vastly better.

Originally posted by Nillerz:

Her hair was brown with the most subtle red hues and she had freckles. Her curls bounced as she confessed her love for me, and I her. We didn't discuss names for I knew she was the right click context menu from Opera's transfer tab.

Very poetic, but I think it is not quite sane to dream about a girl named "Right-click Context Menu"! Thanks, you gave me a good laugh.

+1 Agreed

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Another great feature trashed in the name of newbies... sad

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Originally posted by wilhelmrahn:

Another great feature trashed

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Opera made the right decision to remove this clutter by default. However, I have no objection to an option to replace it. The "Include internal shell" item is in the menu, but it doesn't work, even if you remove the semicolon.

Personally, I am happy to use Open Folder whenever I need this, which is not that often.

Originally posted by Luchio:

The option to Open the folder just adds unnecessary steps (right-click on file, open folder, visually find the file, right-click again, choose action, close explorer

The transferred file is already selected when the folder opens.

Originally posted by Pesala:

Personally, I am happy to use Open Folder whenever I need this, which is not that often.

I'm also glad that this was made available in the default menu, although it has been available in custom menus a long while ago. As I said, I wouldn't be bothered if the Shell menu was available only in a custom menu, or as a submenu.

Originally posted by Pesala:

The transferred file is already selected when the folder opens.

It still means 5 steps to accomplish what was previously do-able in 2.

Originally posted by Luchio:

It still means 5 steps to accomplish what was previously do-able in 2.

Exactly... now, the transfers panel is completly useless.

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At the VERY least, the Open With... menu that is there should include the system open with options. This would at least give me the ability to virus scan everything from the transfer panel. And then we could add delete, cut, copy, etc. scripts to the open with menu.

Come to think of it, that might be possible how it is by adding them to all MIME types...

Still that method will royally suck, and honestly I don't see how the copy, cut, etc will work (though delete would).

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Originally posted by Luchio:

It still means 5 steps to accomplish what was previously do-able in 2.

Actually four steps:
1. Right click
2. Open Folder
3. Delete key or button
4. Close button

Originally posted by Darken:

Exactly... now, the transfers panel is completly useless.

Hyperbole is completely useless when it comes to making a case for/against something.

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It was a feature in 9.27 and before, it didn't bother you if you didn't need it, it was nice to being able to use it.
It vanished in 9.5 = 9.5 has lost one feature.

If people would have complained about it before (and not just quietly happily used it) you could be sure it would still be here because then the developers would have thought it must be something important.

Often you realize that things are important only when they are gone.

R.I.P. dear transfer context menu, some will miss you

Originally posted by uhura:

If people would have complained about it before (and not just quietly happily used it) you could be sure it would still be here because then the developers would have thought it must be something important.

Developers normally are not the ones to decide upon such issues, I believe there are no or not professional enough good UI designers within OPERA ASA, M/B they could hire some real competent, good people...

I remember having read an advertisement from OPERA ASA about that...
There's still hope!

Originally posted by Pesala:

Originally posted by Luchio:

It still means 5 steps to accomplish what was previously do-able in 2.

Actually four steps:
1. Right click
2. Open Folder
3. Delete key or button
4. Close button

Assuming that all you want to do is delete something. If you want to scan for viruses, then it is still five steps. Either way, this is beside the point. Point is that it now takes more time and effort to do this stuff and if you download files a lot it all adds up.

If you don't use something a lot, you don't tend to notice the strengths or weaknesses of it as much as people who do. If you do a lot of downloading files then having those extra options on the menu is a real benefit. If you don't, you don't need to use them but there is no argument anywhere in that which states that those things should be removed. If you think they might get in the way, it's easy enough to rearrange things so that they don't. Taking them out all together was simply a bad idea. What we want is for them to be put back in, even if only as an optional feature.

+1 Agreed for the old menu

Definitivly +1!

Absolutely! I miss the native menu! +1

Things like "copy" or "extract" are often tasks for me.

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I used the features in the old menu all the time. It is moot for now though, coz I had to go back to 9.27, couldn't stop the bizarre crashes. I liked a lot of the features in 9.50, I hope to get it back soon.

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Restore the menu.ini option at least!

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WTF??!! Why have you even removed it? Who was so insane?
I switched back to previous version, because now work with downloaded files is completly uncomfortable.
Next time first THINK before doing something!

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I really miss "Open with..." and "delete".

This is a very useful functionality. I don't know why this has been removed in the first place. At least, it should be made an option.

Originally posted by BunkFace:

This is a very useful functionality. I don't know why this has been removed in the first place. At least, it should be made an option.

Exactly! It should be something like regular/advanced options.

BR
Miki

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Definetely removing the menu was a wrong turn.

+1 .. It is really needed. Web browser, as any application heavily GUI dependent, is only
as good as the GUI itself. If there is a great technology under the hood but the GUI
is not user friendly, people will prefer a product with better GUI. Please,
why to set on path of ruining Opera? I used to pay for the upgrade when
it were not free, but 9.50 is not what I expected from the GUI point of view.

I can't even post a reply from 9.50 -- I am doing it from Firefox, since the Quick
reply box does not appear in Opera. Strange.

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IMO, they should introduce an option to choose between their 'default/newbie' context menu and system-integrated menu, so that both sides would be quite happy

Originally posted by sab__666:

I completely agrizzle. Even if it has to be a '2nd level' menu.

Please no 2nd level menu! That is a terrible compromise that suits no one. Those who don't like it, will be exposed to all the problems thereof (see the thread for examples), those who do will complain about the GUI friendliness being too limited.

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+1! That was realy useful feature in older Opera versions. I need it back!

Absolutely support bringing it back, there can't be a good reason for killing operas best feature. I loved it so much, in fact I recall several times in which I would doze at my keyboard and in my dream, a beautiful young girl would appear. Her hair was brown with the most subtle red hues and she had freckles. Her curls bounced as she confessed her love for me, and I her. We didn't discuss names for I knew she was the right click context menu from Opera's transfer tab. Suddenly, a storm broke out and in a sea of progress and 9.5, she was lost forever. I am still deep in mourning.

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