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2. July 2010, 21:05:57

turbo_user

Posts: 70

Opera starts slowly

In Ubuntu 64-bit, Opera starts slowly when you open it. When I say "slowly", I mean around 30 - 40 seconds from opening Opera. I'm using the latest version of Opera for Linux. If you reboot/shutdown Ubuntu, log into Ubuntu and start Opera, that is when it's slow to start, but if you open Opera again when Ubuntu has been running the whole time (such as 5 minutes after having closed Opera before), Opera will load quickly.

Anyone else experiencing this?

3. July 2010, 03:34:56

nelph0nd

Posts: 29

I'm running Opera 10.60 on Mint 9 64-bit and running into the exact same problem.

3. July 2010, 06:01:49

arghwashier

Posts: 1333

same here on mandriva both 64 and 32 (though 64 bits might be worse) and mint 32 bits



3. July 2010, 17:14:20 (edited)

szyk

Posts: 3544

Bug - turn off Speed Dial, that helped at me.

Edit: that helped, but till this afternoon, when slow start returned...
Opera 11 ; Ubuntu 10.04

4. July 2010, 16:56:50

nelph0nd

Posts: 29

Originally posted by szyk:

Bug - turn off Speed Dial, that helped at me.

Edit: that helped, but till this afternoon, when slow start returned...



Yeah, it seems to do it whether the speed dial is on or not.

5. July 2010, 11:17:21

chrishall57

Posts: 4

For me the interface loads up very quickly but then becomes unresponsive for perhaps 30 - 40 seconds.

It only becomes responsive when I get a new feed item notification. I'm using the mail client with 2 imap accounts and reading in about 100 feeds. Maybe there's a connection between that and the unresponsiveness. I'll delete all the feeds and imap accounts tonight when I get home and see what happens.

Zenwalk 6.4.

6. July 2010, 07:52:40

robWue

Posts: 58

Same here (Ubuntu 10.04), but I just tested launching Opera without mail client, and then it starts reasonably fast (i. e. nomail switch, http://www.opera.com/docs/switches/).

So in my case the slowdown seems to be the mails ("database loading" or something), which was not the case with 10.11. And it shouldn't, a few ten thousand mails and feeds doesn't seem all that many these days.

6. July 2010, 08:38:03

arghwashier

Posts: 1333

I don't have mail and just the desktop team feed that's it and still it starts slowly

I believe the clue must be is that is the first startup after a boot that is slow all other startups, even for other users are fast



6. July 2010, 09:51:36

Emulatore

Posts: 3

on winxp and ubuntu 10.04 amd64 work flawless, why? with 10.60 gmail work too ! but on my gentoo amd 64 is so slow and with or without flash, crash evertime in this way i think i will downgrade to 10.10, now i am using Konqueror!

7. July 2010, 08:27:41

alSee

Posts: 22

In my case such a problem is caused by operapluginwrapper segfault.
See details in this post.

9. July 2010, 09:50:23

robWue

Posts: 58

Yes, I have this operapluginwrapper segfault, too, but it doesn't hurt, startup speed doesn't seem to be caused by this.

Moreover, there are some other significant performance problems, such as opening a new window or bookmarking, taking forever.

9. July 2010, 13:51:18

arghwashier

Posts: 1333

I also found that opening Opera is not exactly fast on win7 either...



17. July 2010, 14:45:31 (edited)

szyk

Posts: 3544

Edit: after using following solution several times I had faster start, and now again slow. Shit. :/
Edit 2: once fast, once slow... it looks, that is random. :/
Edit 3: but this slow start last about 25s, so it is a little shorter. And interesting thing - after fast start Opera disappears also fast from processes after closing - after about 5s, after slow start that lasts several times longer.


I started Opera with -debugfont parameter, and I saw, that Opera hangs during Chinese/Japanese/Korean fonts checking. After investigation I saw, that in comparison to 10.11 /usr/share/opera/defaults/font.ini changed. When I used font.ini from 10.11, then Opera 10.60 started to open so fast like 10.11.

So enough to replace this file or change in it:

; Known fonts that solves specific problems
family:mincho|gothic=japanese good try-first
family:kochi*=japanese good try-first
family:song|song ti|fangsong*=chinese-s try-first
family:baekmuk*=korean good try-first

for:

; Known fonts that solves specific problems

; Chinese fonts 
family:Simsun|FZSongTi|新宋体|宋体|方正宋体|文泉驿正黑|文泉驛正黑|WenQuanYi Zen Hei=chinese-s excellent try-first 
family:WenQuanYi Bitmap Song=chinese-s verygood try-first 
family:文鼎PL简报宋|AR PL UMing*|AR PL SungtiL GB=chinese-s good try-first

; Japanese fonts
family:IPA*=japanese excellent try-first
family:kochi*=japanese good try-first
family:VL*=japanese verygood try-first


; Korean fonts 
family:baekmuk gulim|undotum=korean sans-serif excellent try-first 
family:baekmuk batang|unbatang=korean serif verygood 
family:baekmuk dotum=korean sans-serif good 
family:ungungseo|unshinmun=korean serif good 
family:baekmuk*|un*=korean
; Optional Korean blacklist 
family:bandal|bangwool|guseul|eunjin*=blacklist
Opera 11 ; Ubuntu 10.04

29. July 2010, 08:34:43

nitro424

Posts: 6

OS: openSUSE 11.3 x86
Opera: 10.60

Opera scans /usr/share for installed fonts after start. I have installed texlive, so the font scanning takes a very long time (about 2700 search results).

This algorithm does not seem to be very useful. Chromium just needs a second to start even on my N270 Atom Netbook.

I had to downgrade Opera to version 10.11. This version starts fast but has other issues. Sometimes its not responding while surfing so i have to wait. I cant reproduce this behavior.

In the last years every Opera-version came with some annoying bugs/issues. I would prefer a stable and fast version without hundreds of new features. A browser should allow me to browse the web. Opera makes it harder from time to time.

29. July 2010, 10:03:25

robWue

Posts: 58

In the last years every Opera-version came with some annoying bugs/issues. I would prefer a stable and fast version without hundreds of new features. A browser should allow me to browse the web. Opera makes it harder from time to time.


I agree. This time it was particularly bad for OS' other than Windows. Things mentioned in this and other threads are quite important issues.

And in my case the startup delay seems to be loading the mail "database".

29. July 2010, 17:53:24

nitro424

Posts: 6

I made a little video to demonstrate my problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvFua7PJFfU

Without the debugfont-switch it starts not faster. On my netbook it takes more than 30 secs to start the browser. This is just not competitive. It would help if I could define an exclude-path so opera will ignore the texlive directory. But for now my favorite browser since version 5 is destroyed.

30. July 2010, 09:14:52

robWue

Posts: 58

Thanks for the video.

Originally posted by nitro424:

On my netbook it takes more than 30 secs to start the browser.


Well that's extremely fast lol
Do you use the mail client? Mine takes several minutes (!), but it's definitely "loading database" (mails) and it starts quickly when Opera is started without mail (see above).

In any previous Opera version it started fast with about the same number of mails.

My conclusion: the font problem can probably be solved somehow, but some other issues (e. g. mail db) seem to be clearly design problems introduced with this Opera version.

30. July 2010, 10:12:29

michalkopyta

Posts: 1

I have Ubuntu 9.04 32 bits and Opera 10.60 without any additional features installed (no plugins, mail clients etc) and it loads really sloooow too. Firefox and Chrome needs just a few seconds while Opera - over 20.

6. August 2010, 09:32:39

Solo

Posts: 8

Originally posted by nitro424:

OS: openSUSE 11.3 x86
Opera: 10.60

Opera scans /usr/share for installed fonts after start. I have installed texlive, so the font scanning takes a very long time (about 2700 search results).



I'm also running Opera 10.70/b6425 on openSUSE 11.3 x86 with TeXlive installed, and get the same problem. Is there the way how to disable/deactivate the mentioned font scanning at startup of Opera? Thanks.

6. August 2010, 15:59:34

arghwashier

Posts: 1333

the font scanning is a red herring, i have very little fonts installed in nix and also on my win7 install opera starts slowly



8. August 2010, 08:00:34

JanGen

Posts: 264

I agree. Startup time for 10.60 is worse than 10.10., and Opera is no match for Chromium. (Chromium 10 times faster).
That's cold start, warm start is much better.

28. August 2010, 03:10:38

nitro424

Posts: 6

The problem described above still exists with Opera 10.61.

2. October 2010, 01:32:47

nitro424

Posts: 6

Still exists with Opera 10.62.

5. October 2010, 01:35:10

rayunix

Posts: 2

Still exists with Opera 10.70

23. October 2010, 17:16:25

nitro424

Posts: 6

Seems to be solved with Opera 11.0. I'm looking forward to it.

23. October 2010, 17:52:17

Cybrsaylr

Posts: 100

Having the same slowness problem with Opera 10.63 with Ubuntu 10.10 64 and 32 bit OS.

Thought it was an ipv6 issue as in the past. So far have got 0 help on this from both Opera and Ubuntu Forums.

BTW am running Opera 10.63 on Ubuntu 9.10 with no problems and Opera is running very fast with 9.10 64 bit Ubuntu.

16. December 2010, 19:38:13

nitro424

Posts: 6

Its fixed for me with Opera 11.0.

This version is excellent.

16. December 2010, 20:38:24

Reproductivist

Banned user

Originally posted by turbo_user:

In Ubuntu 64-bit, Opera starts slowly when you open it. When I say "slowly", I mean around 30 - 40 seconds from opening Opera. I'm using the latest version of Opera for Linux. If you reboot/shutdown Ubuntu, log into Ubuntu and start Opera, that is when it's slow to start, but if you open Opera again when Ubuntu has been running the whole time (such as 5 minutes after having closed Opera before), Opera will load quickly.

Anyone else experiencing this?



Same OS, did experience slow loads some times. It gets hard to tell though since it is supposed to take longer to load than other browsers anyway. If it is a big problem though you could simply leave it open at a different desktop or use the hide function and use hibernate so you don't have to start it often.

16. December 2010, 20:45:10

Frenzie

Posts: 14478

Originally posted by Reproductivist:

It gets hard to tell though since it is supposed to take longer to load than other browsers anyway.


Only if you use sessions with lots of pages and then still Fx is about equally slow or fast if you restart it with a fair amount of tabs.
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